December 3, 2011

SandBox Comments: Glenwood Springs Post Independent "City Council tables MEAN contract for further discussion"

'SandBox Nanny' rarely watches council meetings anymore.  She gets so much feedback from y'all that there really isn't much of a need to.  What she does do, when you are heated up about a topic is wait for the convenience of the video posting and the (fantastic, thank you so much camera guy!!) now broken out into segments live feed.  That way, she can just go see for herself what the fuss is all about.

The inserted feedback below is a mix of your feedback.  She's sat through way too many deep coma inducing sessions from old council on the battle over 'clean and green' energy in Glenwood Springs.

Email in if she's misread your emailed remarks.  Comment ability is blocked on this post.                         

John Stroud (and local comments (summarized in bold):

"...Glenwood Springs has the opportunity to develop unique energy resources such as geothermal, hydroelectric, coal-seam combustion and biomass, said former city councilman Russ Arensman....."

'Yes, it certainly does.  How long have we been at that research into all that now?  A decade or more? Where are we at, Russ?  Good thing the folks didn't rush out turn off all public utilities thinking they were going to go green for good.  Another good thing is all the folks out here who got tired of waiting and are working on biomass, geothermal and compressed natural gas because they got free of you guys and the endless talk with little to no action.'

“For you to take action that commits this city to a largely coal generation infrastructure system for the next 30 years, it's just not smart,” he said....."

'Well, that's pretty much the pot calling the kettle black.   Wonder if you guys are ever even going to read the MEAN terms and contract??  If you did, you would see that it's locked in to what can be negotiated and what cannot.  Also locked in to the fact that the folks are free to do whatever they want with clean and green alternatives.  The thing you guys can't seem to grasp is that nobody is going to pay the way for you to do that, especially MEAN.  You have to be self-sufficient.  But then most of you are lib's so we just can't wait around for you to become informed on how to not rely on government.' 

"....However, terms of the proposed “Schedule M” contract are not negotiable, Glenwood Springs Public Works Director Robin Millyard said.

The contract limits local power generation to 768 kilowatts for MEAN participants within the Xcel Energy/Public Service Company of Colorado control area, which includes Glenwood Springs and Aspen. That represents roughly 2 percent of MEAN's peak load for the area, Millyard said.

“That amount is limited under the terms of the contract,” he said. “But, there is a mechanism to advance any request we want beyond that, whether it's renewable or traditional generation.....”

'Helloooo....you group of former council people we voted out....see?  We already have the freedom to do what you want.  But MEAN is never going to pay for it like you want.'

“I agree with most of the sentiments expressed tonight,” Councilman Stephen Bershenyi said of the concerns about the ability for local generation.

“But the one thing that's missing in that is how we manage the delivery of that power,” he said. “We don't have the expertise to do that, but our MEAN partnership gives us that....”

'There's that pesky self-sufficiency and can't have it all ways on a free taxpayer ride thing again.'

".....That partnership also gives the city greater influence in promoting renewable energy resource development on a broader scale, he said, noting that MEAN's current energy portfolio includes 30 percent renewables.

“We also have a responsibility to provide energy at a reasonable, fair price,” Bershenyi said...."

'yep.  We stroke you for the millionth time on getting us the percentage we are at now and it looks like MEAN is already giving us room to grow.  Almost double where we are now and that's pretty good in our view.  Thank you very much, now will you please come back one more time and then let it all rest?' 

"....Councilman Mike Gamba said it's a question of flexibility versus cost. “Do we maintain absolute flexibility to be able to provide locally generated power, as opposed to cheaper power?..."

'boy...we sure like that new Councilman Gamba.  He even does the political two-step stroking real good.  All politics are local politics.'

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